Mike Safo with Rick Strassman, Psychiatrist, Researcher, Author, & "Godfather of DMT"
Joined today by psychiatrist, researcher, and author, Dr. Rick Strassman. Rick shares his fascinating journey, from growing up in California during the '60s to developing a lifelong passion for chemistry, ultimately leading him to become known as the "Father of DMT." He discusses his groundbreaking book DMT: The Spirit Molecule and his latest work, My Altered States, along with a deep dive into the mysteries of DMT—what it is, how our bodies produce it, and what happens when it’s released.
Rick and my brother explore the effects of DMT, touching on experiences of "tripping out," out-of-body phenomena, and why so many people report encounters with "beings" after taking the substance. We also discuss the potential benefits and risks of psychedelics, including their use in treating depression, PTSD, and anxiety, while acknowledging the dangers of excessive use.
Dr. Strassman opens up about his groundbreaking research on DMT in the '90s, shedding light on his goals, the government grants he received, and the unexpected surprises that came from his studies. The conversation also touches on the stigma surrounding psychedelics, the possibilities of changing how these substances are classified, and what has sparked the recent resurgence of interest in them.
From his experiences with Joe Rogan to predicting plot twists in The White Lotus, Dr. Strassman delivers both knowledge and entertainment in this captivating episode.
Follow Rick Strassman here and purchase his new book, My Altered States: A Doctor's Extraordinary Account of Trauma, Psychedelics, and Spiritual Growth